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workinprogress · #1 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 12:22 PM

I posted recently as I had problems with a flash based site, toon noted that I really needed to get a html site together.

I have zero experience but have manged to change my flash based site

www.workinprogressdesign. co.uk

into a more html based site:

http://www.workinprogressdesign.co.uk/profile.html

I haven't moved it over onto the directly accessed site, just wondered whether you had any comments not so much on the design but the technical side, is there some code I should add? have I missed anything obvious?

Any help is appreciated. Many thanks

Toon · #2 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 12:52 PM

It's a shame you've used tables but you can't expect too much too quick. It's improved 10X it hasn't taken anything away from the design. Centre it on the page and you'll be well away. Plus change the colours of the links at the bottom the default blue doesn't fit.
Top stuff and good on you for deciding to change for SEO reasons.

workinprogress · #3 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 12:57 PM

Thanks for the reply, are tables a big no? Im only on the first pages of my dreamweaver book! Will apply your ideas, will this help with search engines etc?

Toon · #4 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

1. Tables are usually more bytes of markup. (Longer to download, and more bytes of traffic for the host.)
2. Tables are usually slower to layout for the browser. (Takes longer for the user to see anything on the page.)
3. Tables usually prevent incremental rendering. (Takes longer for the user to see anything on the page.)
4. Tables may require you to chop single, logical images into multiple ones. (This makes redesigns total hell, and also increases page load time [more http requests and more total bytes].)
5. Tables break text copying on some browsers. (That's annoying to the user.)
6. Tables prevent certain layouts from working within them (like height:100% for child elements of

). (They limit what you can actually do in terms of layout.)
7. Once you know CSS, table-based layouts usually take more time to implement. (A little effort up-front learning CSS pays off heavily in the end.)
8. Tables are semantically incorrect markup for layout. (They describe the presentation, not the content.)
9. Tables make life hell for those using screen readers. (Not only do you get the other benefits of CSS, you're also helping out the blind/partially-sighted. This is a Good Thing.)
10. Tables lock you into the current design and make redesigns MUCH harder than semantic HTML+CSS. (Have you seen CSS Zen Garden?)

There's a little info here as well if it helps understand a little bit about tables vs css layouts.

Russlock · #5 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 09:17 PM

any help you need in html and css (as they go hand in hand) just shout up as i have been doing dreamweaver about 7 years.

workinprogress · #6 (**permalink**) 06-04-2007, 09:25 AM

Thanks, just got it up and running, but will probably go back to it when I have a bit more time. Cheers

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