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Old 02-06-2008, 09:12 AM
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Default Templates...why?

I see that a lot of people just come here to ask for free work or templates!?

I wonder why everybody always want to use templates. What is the point of designing something if you don't do it by yourself...

A good designer can never use templates! otherwise, he is not a designer. So al people that think they are a designer and trying to get money out of it, wake up and start to realize: the only way to get money out of it is : BE CREATIVE!!! and make you're own stuff, that is whats make a designer unique!

There are some exceptions: i think you can use templates in the following cases:
1) if a customer asks for it ( for example to reduce the designing costs )
2) Tepmlates for websites ( when you're not a programmer ) but then use the template as is it, without changing anything but the title and text is wrong. In this case youu can use a template just for the code and change anything else, so it doesn't even look the same anymore.

Templates are made for people that want to make a website for them selves, but not to sell! These people don't see them selves as a designer.

I don't see the point in copying everything.
And sometimes it makes me a little bit down to see that a lot of people just copying things ( they see something they like and make the same with other pictures, where is the creativity here?) or using templates ( even for posters!!!!!!????????) and then call themselves designers.

I think this is a insult for all the real designers that are doing there best to make something new and unique every day for their customers!

I am sorry if i insulted somebody, but this is the way i think. Otherwise you want to be a designer and you're do you're best to be a good one.
Or you leave it to real designers. (people that want to mess with other designs to copy it and then try to sell it, do it at home then, but don't call youreselve a designer!)

I went 5 years to the university to learn all the stuff i use every day. therefore i went 5 years to the art school. And i worked 6 years in a advertising agency, before i started my own small bussines. Ans still i can't say with a lot of self-confidence: "I am a real designer"

Other people that think the same way as i do?
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:35 PM
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I use templates as a tool for studying. It's been quite a while since i've taken a class on HTML, so i'm a bit out of date.

I dunno. Most templates I see anyways are extremely gaudy and inefficiently designed.
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I think there may be some confusion with 'template' and 'front end design'
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You can design a template yourself, so, still you can be creative. I think you mean using ready-made templates. Using ready-made things generally is against creativity, not just in templates.
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As i see it, a template is just that - a shell you sell on for people to chop and change to anything and list on a template site...

A front-end design is bespoke to a client, in what ever way that is. Sure, that site could be used as a template too...
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i disagree.

Then your telling me CSS ZEN Garden is full of a bunch of no talent "non-designers"?
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Hmmm, I was thinking about this the other day. I think the word template when used in the context of a front-end project is a little devaluing. In my mind a template is a reusable/disposable 'thing'. I think a few phrases in the web industry devalue the profession - 'look and feel' being one of them... But that's another story.
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not at all. I think that as harry says, there are lots of terms that are being mis-used. That's not to say a template has any less value so I don't get where you think I am saying they are a bunch of non-designers from?
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i can understand you use a yeplate for websites becausse is spares you a lot of time. But what about templates for posters en flyers, even for logos???

What is the point of that?
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For it provide convenient when you have no time or ability to design. It also help the starters to learn how to design.
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