I need a Graphic Design for my online business

[zumojuice]

Paddy and L,
At the end of the day, you both in the same field. You have different skill sets, inspiration and experience. Personally I don't use any of these things to say if your right or wrong.
Everyone is learning, and what some people gain from others and what they gain themselves varies.

The real crux point here in intergrity. It is the one thing all designers should have more of perhaps.

[L[Design]]

Well, so be it Paddy. I give, I am not going to continue such an argument, Zumo is totally right, integrity is perhaps most important.

We'll have our differences, so be it. Depending on your area, Design work is tough, some people do not see value in what you do at all, this happens to me often where I live. I do not make a living in Design, it's not a hobby to me, it's a second job. But, I do love it, I am so pleased when I am working on something. Many times, I find myself using a company out of the phonebook and I redesign their identity, for practice. I certainly do not know it all,do not profess to. But, we are all artists, some make it and some don't. Do your thing Paddy, you could get paid now, just put yourself in the right area.

Also, personally, your free logo has some promise with some tweeking.

Also, Thanks Zumo!

[L[Design]]

This is exactly what I was trying to tell you Paddy.

Thanks Tommy.

[tommylogic]

yeah.. and here:
Before you ask for something ...

[L[Design]]

Seems we've lost Paddy with Tommy's wonderful explanation of the ordeal. That is a fantastic statement.

[paddy]

Originally Posted by L[Design]

Seems we've lost Paddy with Tommy's wonderful explanation of the ordeal. That is a fantastic statement.

I read the article in the links and I can see the point of the writer. However, I will still do free work simply because I enjoy it. I'll try not to publicise it as much just for you guys though. It's been interesting. I'll definitely be sticking around on edf as there appear to be some intelligent designers on the boards.

Cheers!

[L[Design]]

Good for you! Do your thing! No offense! Glad to see your still around.

[Mute]

Had i farted in this thread back when it was real hot, I'm sure it would have gone BOOM.
Alas I was visiting the pyramids of Egypt around that time ;)

[zumojuice]

Yeah Mute, it would have. Now it just smells of rotten eggs.