Volunteers requested: Creativity Community (Project) [coders, graphic artists, writer

[Thizke]

Good evenin' everyone!

As the subject indicates: I'm looking for volunteers, a bucket full of.

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Qoud? What community?
I am giving birth to a community website that connects artists, photographers, web designers, ...
The project will be a mix of dA, cpluv and artreview, but will - hopefully - be unique, although I'm quite sure that I'm not the first one to come which such an idea.

Users can manage their own portfolio in which they can show their latest creations, get spotted by companies, be discovered, ...
There are account-mode settings like "webdesigner", "photographer", "director" and all related fields. (multiple fields are allowed, of course.)
Users can also create groups for their school (if it's a related institution/university) and / or company (if it's related to their skills).
There are boards for them to discuss each others works, novelties, ... but they can also communicate profile-to-profile (Private Messages / Comments)

The frontpage will feature an up-to-date news bulletin and an image reel which shows thumbnails of photos, videos, ... . The menu will link to items as "explore", "connect", "discuss" & "support".

Explore will host a nice overview of all fields, but will also be the forwarding page to all subdomains (such as "http://webdesign.websitename.org").
Those subdomains will be specialised in their field and will only show related news, works ...

Connect will launch you into a world of socializing - or so to speak. The category's main goal is to find working partners, a freelancer for your job, people with the same hobby, ...

Discuss. As previously mentioned, there is a forum in which users can discuss anything.

Support. This will be the 'helpers' '' financial aid corner. This part contains merchandising (T-shirts, posters, ...), an option to upgrade your account (1 euro/2 dollar (or how low is the dollar these days?)) (note: upgrading isn't a spectacular upgrade. You have a discount at the shop and to-be discussed features... but nothing ground breaking. It's just a way of supporting the website and servers.)), will contain cry-outs for new writers, designers ...

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What will these so-called volunteers do? And more important: what's in it for us?

Writers will - guess - post news; no, not about the political situation in Congo - although we might show support for some goals -, no, you write about your specialty (web 2.0, photography, ...).
Good titles and content will be shown on the main page, but will always get their deserved spot at the related subdomains.
This can be a great way to express yourself, because you can do what you love and you get - not to forget - some (dis)credit for it.
Also, for the students and/or people who want to expand their curriculum vitae: being writer of a well-appreciated community doesn't harm.

Coders will do what they do best: code. With their extensive knowledge of MySQL, PHP, Java, ... they make the site fully functional.
You are allowed to write - if you wish so. You will probably be honored by the community, and if not, by me.
Why should you do it? Well, if you don't learn a thing or two and sharpen your skills, you are still working in a well-behaving and friendly environment which appreciates what you are doing;
at the footer of each page there is a small link to the team - with your link, which can help you to pick up some clients and pay your devastating debts.
If the website would be running on full throttle, it's a nice thing to place on your resume, being known as the coder of.
(Once the community website is successful, I will set-up a more commercial website in which 'I' gathered the 'best' freelancers. If you make it to the 'head' team,
I will most likely ask you to lead 'your' department: you can take jobs yourself or hand them out to other freelancers - as you wish.
I will discuss this matter with you personally, since it's off-topic.)

Designers / Graphic Artists will take care of the layouts, the logos, the t-shirts, posters.
You are also allowed to post news to express yourself, give your opinion about something,... Your designs will reach a big audience and you enjoy the same benefits that go for the coders.

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What am I looking for?

General:
* Inspiring and creative individuals that can work in team
* Aged 18+ and must be able to travel (costs covered) to events is a plus.
* Related experience preferred
* Decent to strong verbal and writing skills (English and mother tongue)
* Non-assholistic (yes, I invented that word just now) and patient people
* Passionate.

Writers:
* Strong to excellent verbal and writing skills
* Related experience preferred
* You keep track of latest developments which relate to your field
* Decent to excellent social skills

Coders:
* Extensive knowledge of (at least 3 - and I don't count html nor css) PHP, MySQL, CSS, AJAX, ASP, Perl, ...
* Communicative
* Able to take initiative and handle control
* Sense of humor to be able to laugh away the depressing times
* Be one step ahead of the new techniques

Designers:
* Breath Adobe products
* Communicate
* Master CSS, HTML
* Able to take initiative and handle control (and ladies/men fans that hunger after sex)
* Perfectionist
* Reached the highest level - the level before that one is also alright (-:

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Extra information

Sponsoring:
I attracted a hosting company who is willing to sponsor me - without the horrible looking banners. I am setting up contracts with merchandising companies.
I am finding volunteers (-:. I'm also talking to some investors - with success.

Stargazer-matter:
I am aware that my 'plan' looks a bit chaotic, and if have been called a dreamer from time to time because I'm searching for volunteers and aren't paying people.
So, allow me to defend myself, why I am looking for volunteers to do the design / coding and are not looking for 'professionals':
I am searching a team that's there to stay, a group that is motivated. Paid work doesn't guarantee quality, networking and getting to know new people does.

Groundbreaking ideas:
Even if I do have some, I am not giving them away. I am aware that a strong marketing campaign is needed to make the site work and reach the mass.

Contact:
Send me a PM or reply in this topic, would you have some questions.
You can contact me by emailing lowette [at] gmail [dot] com; we can discuss things, I can give you my skype - heck, we can even cyber!


With friendly greetings,
Thizke


note: I'm copy-pasting this topic over the whole internet; it is possible that you stumbled into a cloned topic somewhere hidden on the internet.

[Thizke]

Thanks for moderating :)

[jamesgoss]

Designers / Graphic Artists ...
You are also allowed to post news to express yourself, give your opinion about something,... Your designs will reach a big audience and you enjoy the same benefits that go for the coders.

so on to the benifits of the coders, now.

at the footer of each page there is a small link to the team - with your link, which can help you to pick up some clients and pay your devastating debts.
If the website would be running on full throttle, it's a nice thing to place on your resume, being known as the coder of.
(Once the community website is successful, I will set-up a more commercial website in which 'I' gathered the 'best' freelancers. If you make it to the 'head' team, I will most likely ask you to lead 'your' department: you can take jobs yourself or hand them out to other freelancers - as you wish. I will discuss this matter with you personally, since it's off-topic.)

because I'm searching for volunteers and aren't paying people.

For these 3 reasons alone, I would not, and would encourage others not to work for you. Exposure is not a form of payment. With that in mind, I have every tool available by myself (without helping to create your website) to create my own networking contacts and creating my own exposure.

This is not a flame war, I offer only my advice here in this one final post, and will be responding no more to this thread. I have a logical opinion, and should be able to respectfully announce it.

[Thizke]

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semi off-topic:

Allow me to defend myself from those lies;

You are a joke, and on top of that, you turn words upside down.

If you are quoting me, quote the whole sentence, not only a small part of it.
I said that it's people could see me as an idealist, because I'm searching for volunteers and am not paying anyone - except their travel costs (+money earned from various freelance jobs).

The moderators were friendly enough to give you a fresh start because this wasn't going anywhere; you ignore it and try to start a flame war.

Reversed psychology doesn't work in the real world. I hope you keep your word and put a stop to your endless crusade against people who believe in themselves and in the goodness others.

And thus, nothing is logical about your reply. You even copy-pasted some parts from deleted posts because you couldn't show the effort to make your post reasonable.

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on-topic:
I am going to finish the hosting deal probably this night, I'm still looking for some extra designers; if you are up for a little investing that will most likely pay off, give me a shout! (odds are 1:9, that isn't too low in the business world).

I am going one hundred percent for this project as I feel at my water it's going to be a success (even withs the low odds), but I need volunteers which want to aid a community and -I'm not gonna wind towels around it - make financially manageable in the short term. And what better way is there, to learn one another, when trying to create/establish something?

I am not prohibiting you to not post here; heck, if it comes to me, you are even allowed to double post and to edit previous messages, but; the next time, base your comments on common sense and -sorry to put it blunt- don't lie.

With friendly greetings,
Thizke

(ps: moderators, I am aware that I'm crossing the borders, but I believe I should be able to defend myself against non-sense. If someone calls your child dumb and not worth putting time in, even throwing shit at, you will most likely respond. (-: )

[LeadMagnet]

Right, let's try to keep things civil ok?
There's nothing wrong with this request. James, it's very clear from the post that people aren't being paid. The first word is "volunteers", that kinda makes it obvious. If you don't want to help because it's unpaid work, that's fine, but it's no grounds to discourage others who might see potential in the idea or who just want to have a bit of fun doing it.

If you wish to express a logical opinion, base it on fact without all the unwarranted aggression.



Personally, my opinion is that the concept for this site is flawed. I gather you're trying to create a new linkedin or something similar, but with more of a focus on showcasing talent. I think it would be important to either make the site invite-only or have some kind of review process for new members before accepting them as participants. Otherwise, you'll likely have your site flooded with new members who just found out what photoshop is, photographers who only take drunken photos of their friends on nights out... etc... Quality assurance is what i'm getting at. You need it to keep the appeal.

[tommylogic]

Lead's on a roll... somebody must have REALLY ****** him off... oops!! that was me

As for the question at hand.. let me extrapolate for a moment.. take this however you might... but as you can see I've taken the time to research this and have simulated this realistically for your interpreted reality. Please allow me to explain your situation:

To focus on improvement, not cost, by moving executive focus from lag financial indicators to more actionable lead indicators, exploitation of core competencies as an essential enabler. The new golden rule gives enormous power to those individuals and units, taking full cognizance of organizational learning parameters and principles, whether the organization's core competences are fully in line, given market realities. By adopting project appraisal through incremental cash flow analysis, the components and priorities for the change program the strategic vision - if indeed there be one - is required to identify. The vitality of conceptual synergies is of supreme importance in a collaborative, forward-thinking venture brought together through the merging of like minds.

Hope this helps

[Thizke]

Originally Posted by tommylogic

Lead's on a roll... somebody must have REALLY ****** him off... oops!! that was me

As for the question at hand.. let me extrapolate for a moment.. take this however you might... but as you can see I've taken the time to research this and have simulated this realistically for your interpreted reality. Please allow me to explain your situation:

To focus on improvement, not cost, by moving executive focus from lag financial indicators to more actionable lead indicators, exploitation of core competencies as an essential enabler. The new golden rule gives enormous power to those individuals and units, taking full cognizance of organizational learning parameters and principles, whether the organization's core competences are fully in line, given market realities. By adopting project appraisal through incremental cash flow analysis, the components and priorities for the change program the strategic vision - if indeed there be one - is required to identify. The vitality of conceptual synergies is of supreme importance in a collaborative, forward-thinking venture brought together through the merging of like minds.

Hope this helps

Did you just place some substantives next to eachother, or copy something from 'das kapital'?; because that wall of text is close to Chinese for me!
In my reality, I have some ideas that will work, but I'm not sharing those, since I consider them to be quite unique - although they aren't, probably.
Yes, I'm trying to raise a capital from nihil, to prove the world that succes lies in the power of combined individuals, with each their own strong abilities.

@Magnet: Yeah, I know, pictures taken on parties is the last thing I would like to see, that's why I am implanting an 'approved' and 'not approved' list. Standard, the option will be that the website only shows 'approved' pictures, members, ... (based on the approval of an administrator, webmaster); but there will be a checkbox to enable to see the 'not approved' members.

[Scriptage]

Support. This will be the 'helpers' '' financial aid corner. This part contains merchandising (T-shirts, posters, ...), an option to upgrade your account (1 euro/2 dollar (or how low is the dollar these days?)) (note: upgrading isn't a spectacular upgrade. You have a discount at the shop and to-be discussed features... but nothing ground breaking. It's just a way of supporting the website and servers.)), will contain cry-outs for new writers, designers ...

So you plan on making money from this? I'll do your code for 40% of your net profit if you can provide me with your figures, i.e., expected income and expenditure over a 12 month period, expected growth etc; and I would need to see some proper market research conducted by an idependent body.

Regards

Carl

[Thizke]

Working on it Carl. (-:

[LeadMagnet]

Originally Posted by scriptage

So you plan on making money from this? I'll do your code for 40% of your net profit if you can provide me with your figures, i.e., expected income and expenditure over a 12 month period, expected growth etc; and I would need to see some proper market research conducted by an idependent body.

Regards

Carl

Have you been watching "Dragon's Den" :D ?