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Old 20-12-2007, 02:54 PM
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Outside the basics (which I do use), CSS is completely foreign to me. No way would I be able to learn it on my own. I need an instructor to be able to be there to answer the many questions I would have and to explain things in a matter that I would understand. I have looked at tutorials online, but I just can't grasp the concept. I think perhaps because I'm more a visual person and HTML alone was difficult to learn.

Perhaps in your eyes, Mike...But you aren't living my life.

What I find amusing about this CSS conformist issue is that I worked for a successful company in Maryland who used <gasp> table layout. Not a stitch of CSS layout there...Yet they have no problems with clients (or lack there of).
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Old 20-12-2007, 03:11 PM
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I'm stumped...
Why do I get a validation error with this line:

Code:
<td background="images/tablebackgrounds_01.gif"><table width="799" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="10">
but not this line:

Code:
<td background="images/tablebackgrounds_02.gif"><table width="799" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="10">
try this:

HTML Code:
<style>
  .class1 {
    background:url("images/tablebackgrounds_01");
    width:799px;
  }
  .class2 {
    background:url("images/tablebackgrounds_02");
    width:799px;
  }
  table {
    text-align:center;
  }
</style>

...
<td class="class1">
  <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="10">
...

...
<td class="class2">
  <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="10">
...
that will give you your desired results, validate, and still be a hybrid site.
i don't care if you learn CSS or not. due to a 30% hold on IE6 hybrid sites are still acceptable so don't feel like you have to give them up yet. it will still be at least another year or two before IE or Firefox update their support for more web standards CSS support. till then (and perhaps even after) hybrid sites will be W3C valid, though not recommended since they are pushing the web standards more and more.

i would suggest you look into more CSS though and get acquainted with it.
hybrid sites wont be supported for more than five more years if that long so if you could gradually stay on top of it then it will be that much less painful when the final switch is made.
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I would be happy to help you with any CSS / HTML questions you have. "not having time" is still not an excuse, You dont need to stop your whole life to take a class about CSS. You need to make little steps at a time.

If its important to you, youll make it happen.
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Old 20-12-2007, 07:07 PM
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I stopped reading at post #13. Tables and validation are two seperate things. Tables can and will validate. The issue with tables is it breaks the rule of separating style from content, as pointed out, making it inaccessible, which is also different from validate. Validation basically *ensures* that you can expect a tolerable degree of cross browser compatibility. Accessibility however is not quantifiable. So where tables will validate, they aren't accessible. They still work though and I'm not gonna try push the use of CSS onto you.
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Ripping logosauce avatars Gav, shame on you leave the s*it there

Lol i couldnt think of a avatar and i didnt wanna leave a gap so i chose the 1st thing on my screen
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