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Old 20-12-2007, 10:02 AM
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In all honesty nobodies saying CSS is the right way but you must realize that Tables is the wrong way, they were never meant for layout purposes but for tabular data.
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It's not a craze nor is anyone leaving rude replies. I have told you twice now how to fix the problem!!

CSS is the new way to style websites that follows all current W3C regulations. To get a website that validates 100% you use css / divs etc. Not tables - tables were made for tabular data, not for layouts.

And to be able to put "we validate" on your website could make a client decide to contract you rather than someone else
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Old 20-12-2007, 10:13 AM
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Just because CSS is the new way doesn't mean there isn't other ways to create a successful web site. It is rude to push code on someone when they specifically say they do not do pure CSS layout and then tell them "Then don't expect your sites to last very long."

You say that table based websites can not be validated, then why do some web sites using tables validate just fine?

Yes, I realize you told me how to fix it by changing the doctype....But why does one line and not the other cause an error? That is what I do not understand.
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CSS is not a new way to do layouts it's just a simpler way, as you only have to change 1 file and it will take effect site wide, whereas table based layouts you have to go and change every page element seperately. If you've ever done a site with 50+ pages you will understand what a joy CSS is to use.
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Just because CSS is the new way doesn't mean there isn't other ways to create a successful web site. It is rude to push code on someone when they specifically say they do not do pure CSS layout and then tell them "Then don't expect your sites to last very long."

You say that table based websites can not be validated, then why do some web sites using tables validate just fine?

Yes, I realize you told me how to fix it by changing the doctype....But why does one line and not the other cause an error? That is what I do not understand.
I dont know how to tell you WHY you have the problem

Im just telling you how to FIX the problem
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CSS is not a new way to do layouts it's just a simpler way, as you only have to change 1 file and it will take effect site wide, whereas table based layouts you have to go and change every page element seperately. If you've ever done a site with 50+ pages you will understand what a joy CSS is to use.
O yes, I do realize what a dream CSS can be for site wide edits. It's saved me much time when having to make a site wide text change.

However, for me to do a purely CSS web site would at the minimum DOUBLE the price of my standard web site rates due to added time of having to fudge with the code. That is not what clients want to hear, nor are they willing to pay to conform.
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Yes but this website is for your own company isnt it?

Then surely your website should represent how good your coding is including CSS
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O yes, I do realize what a dream CSS can be for site wide edits. It's saved me much time when having to make a site wide text change.

However, for me to do a purely CSS web site would at the minimum DOUBLE the price of my standard web site rates due to added time of having to fudge with the code. That is not what clients want to hear, nor are they willing to pay to conform.
You'd be surprised how easy it is once you get to know it, if anything table based layouts are more of a pain to work with
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No, not if I don't need CSS to create a visually appealing web site. As I said, I don't do CSS layout, which would mean I would have to pay my programmer to create something that looks EXACTLY like I already have. Why do that? I also certainly don't have the time for additional schooling on just CSS use.

Most of my clients don't know what HTML is, let alone CSS. If it looks pretty and functions smoothly, they are happy.

I'm done with the CSS argument. I have been doing this for several years without the use of CSS layout and am quiet happy with the results. If clients wish to have a CSS based site, they will pay the price.
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No, not if I don't need CSS to create a visually appealing web site. As I said, I don't do CSS layout, which would mean I would have to pay my programmer to create something that looks EXACTLY like I already have. Why do that? I also certainly don't have the time for additional schooling on just CSS use.

Most of my clients don't know what HTML is, let alone CSS. If it looks pretty and functions smoothly, they are happy.

I'm done with the CSS argument. I have been doing this for several years without the use of CSS layout and am quiet happy with the results. If clients wish to have a CSS based site, they will pay the price.
or go else where where companies do it as standard
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